That’s a clown schedule, bro.
Late June is a boring time. There’s no football, the NBA just ended (thankfully) and there are only two good shows on TV (Workaholics and Burn Notice, for the record). If you’re anything like me, you are passing the time reading about @DadBoner’s divorce and trying in vain to get the images of the portly chick from “Girls” out of your brain. It’s bad, you guys.
But today we get a slight break. The U of D released the non-conference schedule, and the early returns are, well, returns. On paper this is an uninspiring slate. The trip to Alabama and home game with Murray State are good, interesting games. The Charleston Classic, or whatever it’s called, has potential. The game at USC will give Big Kav a chance to spread his seed with a 19 year old “film student” named Rhiannon. That’s about it.
Sure, there’s UAB, but they haven’t been relevant in two years. They get Weber State right after they lose an NBA lottery pick. Illinois State comes to the Decibel Dungeon fresh off their coach deciding an assistant gig at SMU is a better career choice.
Saturday November 10 Arkansas State UD Arena
Thu-Sat. 15-18 DIRECTTV Charleston Classic presented by Foster Grant
Pairings to be announced Charleston, S.C.
Charleston Classic participants
Auburn, Baylor, Boston College, Charleston, Colorado, Dayton,
Murray State, St. John’sSaturday 24 Manhattan UD Arena
Wednesday 28 Weber State UD Arena
Saturday December 1 Northern Illinois UD Arena
Wednesday 5 Alabama Tuscaloosa, Ala.
Saturday 8 Miami UD Arena
Saturday 15 Florida Atlantic UD Arena
Wednesday 19 Illinois State UD Arena
Saturday 22 Murray State UD Arena
Sunday 30 USC Los Angeles, Cal.
Saturday January 5 UAB UD Arena
This is not a bad schedule, and it’s not a particularly good schedule. It’s everything we have come to expect from a Dayton non-conference schedule. We will laugh. We will cry. We will yawn. Put them down for an 11-3 OOC record.
Is the portly girl from Girls sorta attractive? I can’t even tell.
Nah. Not hating Brian Williams’ daughter, though.
for the record, i find all the girls but the portly one attractive.especially later in the year when the blonde had lost her post pregnancy weight from earlier in the year.
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Kav,
Dreams unwind
Love’s a state of mind
Let me know when its easier to post on this site and I will return. I don’t know whats worse, the home schedule or this wordpress shit. Untill then http://www.a10talk.com/
TMan: you’re complaining about the difficulty you are having posting on this site…by posting on this site?
Trying to figure out what’s so difficult. You can leave a general reply at the bottom, or reply to a specific comment by clicking “reply” right there in said comment. Am I missing some elaborate step in the process?
IMO, 11-3 is a safe bet. I’m hoping and holding out for 12-2. No reason we should lose to any of these teams at home (unless Buffalo comes to town again). Hopefully we either win the whole Charleston by beating a young upstart Baylor team OR only lose 2 with a loss in Charleston and then splitting the ‘Bama / USC road gauntlet.
The jcubspoe name is now retired…it’s hard to even admit being a Cubs fan this season.
Archie thinks this is one of UD’s best ever non-conference schedules. On what planet!? Archie Millah, you high.
Ticket sales must be down if Miller is gushing forth how great this schedule is. Sorry…not buying it.
Archie is on the job for 11 months yet he feels like he can make a comment like that. I had high hopes that he would fix the shitty home schedule forced upon the Faithful. I realize thats now probably not going to happen. He turned into Brian Gregory nearly overnight. Safe to say we will play the weakest home schedule in the league AGAIN! The worst part is, I had such high hopes for this coach.
ARCHIE! Don’t support the UD money grab by making asinine statements like that. You only make yourself look stupid.
Weakest home schedule in the league? Not even close.
You might want to check around before you make a statemnt like that. You will be greatly surprised. UD plays SO MANY cup cakes that it weakens the over all home schedule. In fact a few seasons ago the flyers foes had a combined 3 wins against 56 losses non-con. If one was to play one decent team followed by eight of some of the worst programs in the college game, it does no good to brag about the one decent opponent you played. Its a slap to the face to all the Faithful. And the shedule continues to aid in prohibiting the growth of UD basketball—but what the hell,,,,they made alot of money , and thats what counts in the eyes of this administration. UD FLYER BASKETBALL,,,, doing less with more,,, than any program in the nation.
Keep cashing those checks!
*Facepalm*
Whatever became of Brian Donoher?
The Official UD Basketball facebook page released an album of “The most memorable” former Flyers. Today’s album includes all-time greats Jim Paxon, Jack Sallee and Kurt Huelsman.
You’re shocked by the GOAT Kurt “Double-Double” Huelsman?
http://www.springfieldnewssun.com/springfield-oh-sports/university-of-dayton-flyers/ex-ud-star-johnson-to-get-shot-with-76ers-1399791.html
3 guys in summer league is sort of interesting…for july at least. The searcy thing really surprised me. I know he has zero chance of making the team but his stats for japan make me wonder if brian gregory was truly that awful in developing big men.
You still wonder about that? I thought that was pretty much the consensus at this point.
I suspect the competition in Japan pro leagues is worse than NCAA Division 1.
Breaking Bad starts on Sunday. No other show better on TV….
Tman…you are a fucking idiot. I hoped you were going to get smarter in the offseason…I was wrong. If you think Archie is the one calling the shots on this schedule, then I am betting your bus wasn’t standard length. Only a few of those games were left to schedule as of the end of last season, let alone the entire thing.
Archie = BG? You are a dipshit. I heard WSU welcomes new fans with open arms.
It was Archie that braged about this being the best schedule–yadday yadday yadda in the history of yadda yadda….Did the AD force him to make such a stupid comment? The only coaches on the planet that have little or no say about the schedule are first year guys coaching in the Sun Belt. Every Coach with one or more testicles dictate the schedule that they want to play . I’m willing to give Archie sometime to correct things–like the shitty ass schedule, especially the home schedule, but when he makes comments like the one made concerning the schedule this season,it gives me very little hope that he realizes just how shitty things are. Brian Gregory loved playing this type of schedule because he believed you could only do so much @ Dayton (NIT). Plus he loved the idea of milking as much money from this program as poosible before moving on. Who’s going to fire a coach with 23 wins?
So you invoke career suicide by bad mouthing your bosses? You create an attitude of disagreement within the ranks that carries down to the players? Hell, maybe Archie knows just a touch more about the situation than you? I have yet to hear any DI coach bitch in public about how shitty his schedule is. I can be as critical as anyone else, but if your life as a UD fan is that bad, why don’t you go suck start a shotgun.
Not sure if Archie has total control over the schedule, does UD have a policy about having a minimum number of home games? To play a tougher schedule UD is either going to have to schedule more home and away series resulting in fewer home games or start to pay higher guarantees to better opponents for games at UD. And paying higher guarantees doesn’t seem realistic both because I don’t know if UD will pay those higher guarantees and also because I don’t know if many good teams will agree to a one time game at UD like that.
And FWIW, in 2009-2010 and 2007-2008 UD had a SOS of 33, and in 2002-2003 the SOS was 54, that’s pretty good. So, UD has played some tough schedules in the past.
year/record/rpi/rpi rank/sos/sos rank
2011-2012 20-12 0.5546 81 0.5425 68
2010-2011 22-13 0.5608 70 0.5455 69
2009-2010 20-12 0.5769 54 0.5661 33
2008-2009 26-7 0.6037 27 0.5319 95
2007-2008 21-10 0.5906 32 0.5645 33
2006-2007 19-12 0.5573 75 0.5431 76
2005-2006 13-17 0.4835 183 0.5183 112
2004-2005 18-11 0.5205 126 0.4945 162
2003-2004 24-8 0.5864 40 0.5319 84
2002-2003 24-5 0.6212 13 0.5525 54
2001-2002 20-10 0.5599 62 0.5243 93
2000-2001 19-12 0.5538 72 0.5341 83
1999-2000 22-8 0.5736 43 0.5204 108
1998-1999 11-17 0.4933 157 0.5268 95
1997-1998 20-11 0.5594 59 0.5309 84
1996-1997 13-14 0.4863 172 0.4879 161
1995-1996 15-14 0.4833 177 0.4720 202
1994-1995 7-20 0.4635 194 0.5316 77
1993-1994 5-21 0.4581 208 0.5467 62
Well lets take a look at this wonderful schedule 2010-11. Which by the way is much improved over the average. Average schedule during the period shown 93. This past season 68th.
Here are the rpi for our non-con last season
153
276
262
214
114
80
87
61
126
298
78
311
100
137
That is down right pathetic.
They need a minimum number of home games, like it or not, until the University finds another way to fund the athletic department. Then, it still takes the time to develop relationships with other schools, find schools that want to schedule with you, and go from there. Tman thinks you can make one phone call and get OSU to walk in and play.
They need home games to pay the bills. Bar none.
There are other options…play less games at home…then Tman will cry like a bitch because the only OOC home games are buy games with Norris Lake State Community College…
Deal with it, win the fucking conference, or be at the top every year, and make the dance.
Find another team to root for.
Have Tman panhandle a few million to supplement the athletic department and they can go on the road…which people will bitch about because of no home games.
I prefer to win the conference and take the schedule shit out of the deal…the games will come when the conference wins come. Ask Xavier.
I am curious to know what Tman’s solution to the perceived problem is? I wish Tman would go out and get drunk tonight and pull a Kylen English.
Wait….I’m sure we lost to Norris Lake State Community College in O’Brien’s last year here.
Shut the fuck up, TMAN
Every year Tman relishes the release of the schedule so he can post on 15 message boards about UD’s schedule and what he would do different. It’s as annual as the Red/Blue game. I mark my basketball seasonal calendar around certain events…one is Tman’s schedule rant.
How about funding the departmant like every other school. Its the price of doing business. How does Duquesne have Athletics? They pay for them. Dayton makes more money than any program in the conference yet they cant afford to play a decent schedule without subjecting us to some of the worst programs in Div one. And the number of shitty teams and shiity games forced upon the faithful is a crime. If you can’t get a game, or refuse a two for one (which would help greatly), go play people. Make the non-con interesting. Put the basketball program first. As it stands-the basketball program exists to make money–no more.
The UD Flyers do less with more than any program in the nation. Twelve homes games against Shitty State U doesn’t help the program. Its doesn’t please the fans. It doesn’t help you make the post season. It hurts recruiting. So why in the wide wide world of sports would ANY Flyer fan support the money grab.
Its a part of why this program is stuck in shittyville.
Less with more.
London Warren is back from the dead. Latest Facebook update:
“These girls be acting up and these niggas be letting them”
I agree with tman, UD already schedules some quality home and non-con series , I don’t see why they just can’t have more of those type games, it’s not like they would need to establish more relationships to get those games when they already get those games now.
The funding the athletic department excuse doesn’t wash since other schools have the same issues to deal with.
The selection committee gives more weight to playing a tougher schedule and getting some tough wins vs. a bunch of wins against weaker opponents. The weaker schedule approach isn’t working, look at the results since 1993-1994. While I don’t think you can blame the schedule entirely for the program underachieving, the weaker schedule approach just isn’t working.
The only difference is that most of those have done better at scheduling because they have been able to get away with it because of winning during the season. X is the perfect example. Win conference, your scheduling will get better.
Tman is retarded. Duquesne may fund their AD the same, but they don’t have some fantastic schedule. UD has the 7 toughest schedule in the A-10. MIddle of the pack for a middle of the pack team. TMan, I ask what UD basketball has done over the last decade to warrant a sweet ass schedule? Nothing. By the way dipshit, most AD’s cash cow is football, not basketball.
Tman, if I were you and I hated something so much, I would quit worrying about it. You either need to call the suicide hotline or close the door to your parents garage, shut the door, start their 73 Buick, and take a nap.
You can’t edit your posts on here, I don’t like that part of the new site. Above post first line should have read quality home AND AWAY non-con series.
tman, you do realize that EVERY SINGLE TEAM IN COLLEGE BASKETBALL has their share of home games against cupcakes, right? It’s not like we’re the only ones to do it.
Like who–Kentucky? We’re not kentucky. We’re more like the people in our conference. The folks in BCS conferences are rewarded later during the conference schedule. If you’re Florida, you know Kentucky is coming to town. UD refuses to reward the faithful. They could have Kentucky come to OUR house if they would only agree to a two for one.I spoke to Kissel @ one time and he told me if Kentucky called today and wanted to play a buy game OR a two for one he would say sorry, cannot do it. I thought @ the time, this is no longer about the program or the fans, its all and only about money. Which I understand is important but UD is putting it before everything, including the program.If you’re trying to tell me every program operates that way, I would have to strongly disagree. The baseball fields have all been built. The sports upgrades all made. Which is what we were told the increase in prices were for.Time to put the program and the Faithful first.The Average home schedule for the A-10 is EIGHT GAMES. Dayton plays ELEVEN. I not calling for a total revamp. Use those three games to reward the faithful. Use the two for ones,go play someone, get on TV, make a case for an at large–anything but stop having us make that drive on 75 to watch Shitty State U. All the while X or Temple are on national TV playing an interesting game that might have significance on selection Sunday….
Great post tman, I agree. Seems pretty clear from your post that if UD is playing 3 more home games than the average A10 team, then UD is clearly shying away from going on the road more often. They don’t even have to do 2 for 1′s or buy games, all they have to do is be more willing to go on the road against halfway decent teams. Even if they played on the road vs. some MAC teams, for example, that would help the RPI due to road wins being worth 1.4 wins while a home game is only worth 0.6 wins. And again, they are already getting Alabama, Seton Hall, USC, etc. on the schedule, so I don’t think they would have a hard time finding more decent/BCS teams to play them in a home and away series. And I would take a buy game or a 2 for 1 with UK just for the exposure/experience of it. I wouldn’t want to do that all the time though with UK rolling right now the way they are with Calipari, I would want to schedule more winnable games.
I looked at UD’s sos for the last 9 years, and while it is pretty good compared to the rest of the A10(other than X), I think the sos could be a little better, and I think UD would have a better chance of getting an at-large more often if the sos was a little better.
I’m surprised that BG didn’t realize that he was more successful in the non-con part of the schedule, and that he didn’t start to make the non-con schedule tougher to compensate for his struggles in the A10. Had BG done this, he probably would have been more successful here.
BTW, what is your source for the 11 home games vs. 8 home games? Did you research that yourself?
NCAA stats for the last twelve years.
Here are some examples of the a-10 for the 2011 season home non-con games.
Lasalle played 7 @ home.
St Louis=8
St Joes=7
X=8
Richmond=7
Saint Bonaventure=6
Temple = 4
Dayton=11
I wouldn’t give up on Archie yet tman.
If you look at X, Matta didn’t significantly upgrade their sos until his 3rd, and final, year. And Sean allowed the sos to get worse after Matta left. Sean didn’t restore a good sos until his 4th year.
And for the last 9 years, Temple’s sos has been about the same as UD’s. X is the only school in the A10 that has had a consistently tough sos recently, and that has only been since Miller’s 4th year, 2007-2008, if you don’t include Matta’s last year in 2003-2004.
http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_atl10_Men.html has the a10 rpi’s going back to 2003-2004 all on one page in an easy to read format.
Season Record RPI Rank SOS Rank
2011-2012 21-12 0.5813 41 0.5647 36
2010-2011 24-7 0.6099 22 0.5504 56
2009-2010 24-8 0.6149 19 0.5611 42
Mack
2008-2009 25-7 0.6174 17 0.5589 47
2007-2008 27-6 0.6344 9 0.5693 24
2006-2007 24-8 0.5940 33 0.5407 82
2005-2006 21-10 0.5510 80 0.5216 106
2004-2005 17-12 0.5120 139 0.5011 149
Miller
2003-2004 23-10 0.5927 35 0.5580 43
2002-2003 25-5 0.6125 20 0.5389 71
2001-2002 25-5 0.6096 14 0.5351 78
Matta
2000-2001 21-7 0.5783 44 0.5211 97
1999-2000 20-11 0.5444 88 0.5108 126
1998-1999 21-10 0.5525 70 0.5109 121
1997-1998 22-7 0.5982 23 0.5447 65
1996-1997 22-5 0.5907 28 0.5160 109
1995-1996 13-15 0.5028 139 0.5156 112
1994-1995 22-4 0.5807 38 0.4922 159
Prosser
1993-1994 19-7 0.5569 65 0.4989 131
Gillen
in my biggest summer surprise, 3 flyers had pretty respectable summer league outings….and then there was a typical chris wright performance. dare i ask the question, does b-rob, cj or big dog have any shot at the league?
Roberts is going to camp with the Hornets, so he’s got a (probably slim) chance.
Big Dog probably got a better overseas gig or a DLeague spot out of his good play, but virtually no chance at the NBA.
CJ isn’t going the be in the NBA.
Wright will probably get a training camp look, then go back to the DLeague/14th man floater role he had last year. Probably time to go to Europe, though I doubt he’s ready to give up on the league.